and one hard core "optimiser"....last campaign was using pathfinder, and fell apart when the "optimiser" got so powerful encounters became a joke.... i dont know if u know the system but when you get to the point when gm makes encounters and to hit the guy on a 19, he has to roll a 2 on everyone else (plus can cast priest spells, and wizard spells and have best saves by at least 5, as well as most attacks and most damage by huge numbers)

Lys wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:51 pm

Calamrin wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 pm

i do like that in theory Lys....but its a massive game change if i read u right...it weakens skills,and you can pickup cool talents left right and centre...many of which are awesome........plus can spend karma on them....its a big change.

It's not really that big of a change. We actually only instituted the rule after we'd hit Circle 5, and the overall feel of the game is still pretty similar, but indisputably better. It's like wearing clothes that are too tight and restrictive, and then exchanging them for something more comfortable, you just feel more free and relaxed. Just wish we'd also adopted the Use All Talents to Advance rule, so there's not need to invest on useless talents like Heartening Laugh. Additionally this rule somewhat weakens multi-disciplining. With a deeper talent pool available at your first discipline there's a lot less pressure to pick up a second one, which i feel is a positive change because by default multi-disciplining is so strong there's little incentive not to do it.

Calamrin wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:25 pm

i do like that in theory Lys....but its a massive game change if i read u right...it weakens skills,and you can pickup cool talents left right and centre...many of which are awesome........plus can spend karma on them....its a big change.

Dyrmagnos wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:42 pm

Maybe just let him buy 1 optional talent per level of advance in his discipline: 1 at novice, another one at journeyman etc... It generally keeps powerlevel at normal range and make 5/9/13 circles a milestones in character progression as they should be.

Lys wrote: ↑

Fri May 05, 2017 9:14 am

In my game we decided that Adepts can buy as many of their Talent Options as they want, provided they have attained the appropriate Circle and have the LP for it. Currently we are 5th Circle going on 6th, and so far it's working out very well. With that change the group can feel free to buy utility or niche Talent Options without worrying about using up limited slots, which adds more variety to gameplay. Nothing seems to break balance wise either, the main thing to watch out for being that over-investing in Talent Options can make it harder to Circle up, but that feels like a valid trade-off. So overall, yeah you can give more Talent Options, heck you can give all of them.

Lars Gottlieb wrote: ↑

Thu May 04, 2017 10:31 am

Hey guys.
One of my dwarf players wants to take more than one optional talent per circle, and I really can't seem to think of why I shouldn't allow him to, given training and legend points.
The one argument I have is it might undermine the feeling of flexibility our Human player has, but he can take talents from Any discipline, not just the rather limited list.

Thoughts?