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Lursi wrote: ↑
Please don't advocate for piracy, or post links to piracy sites. Especially when legitimate e-book versions are available.Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:40 am
Yeah, Piracy! It has seduced me to buy so many physical books that I would never have known without it. (Live on the country side, no real rpg shop close)Especially on the site of the company that publishes the material in question.
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Anunnaki wrote: ↑
Thanks! Might have to pull out my Second Edition books and read them some time. 
Take kaer, James
Note: You will want to edit your post to remove that link. It's a piracy site.
Yeah, Piracy! It has seduced me to buy so many physical books that I would never have known without it. (Live on the country side, no real rpg shop close)Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:32 am
Awesome! I stand corrected, which is never a bad thing.Lursi wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 pmI beg to differ.
Page 147 Earthdawn 2.Edition LRG
„... .Each time a character advances to a new circle they also learn a number of new spell levels equal to twice the new Circle without a Legend point cost. Depending on the arrengements made during training, the character can learn any spell in the trainer‘s grimoirr. These levels can be divided as the player sees fit. ...“
Thanks! Might have to pull out my Second Edition books and read them some time. Take kaer, James
Note: You will want to edit your post to remove that link. It's a piracy site.
These robbers! But I see what you mean.
I play 2nd Edition because the only Earthdawn group close to me plays it. I like the Redbrick Edition a lot more but rather play along a crappy edition with a great group that reading a great rule set in my own.
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in my setting that I run, the NPC spellcasters don't charge for you to learn a spell if you have a spell of roughly the same value to learn. However, rare spells is a whole other discussion
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i mean, sure, the cost could potentially be a spell of equal value that the other adept wants (if you have such a spell that they don't know), but in general, they have a thing that you want, they're no more likely to give it away for free than anyone else is.
and the adepts that make a living off of training others in spells and such are fairly likely to know most of the spells that an adventuring adept knows and then some, unless the adventurer has found something special in their travels.
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in 4th, the spellcasters have been reduced in blasting/dps power to make them more versatile and better equipped to assist the party. That's why you now get bonus effects to spells for a better spellcast roll. Since spells are, in a way like half a talent? (or I guess with the extra successes it's like a 1.5 talent), now, that's why they cost LP.
I ran a 3rd ed game for a long time and I had failed to notice the change between 3rd and 1st about charging for LP let alone getting 1 free one per circle. What that did was foster human spellcasters to learn all the other thread weaving and spells. Now with the added LP cost for spells, I think this is going to reduce the attractiveness of doing that.
In the end, I don't like this rule, however, I fully understand the reasoning and the why and as a GM running a 4th ed game, I endorse this ruling. Spells cost LP but I don't think caster should be charing each other to learn a spell from each other. As long as you have something roughly worth the same in trade.
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Lursi wrote: ↑
Page 147 Earthdawn 2.Edition LRG
„... .Each time a character advances to a new circle they also learn a number of new spell levels equal to twice the new Circle without a Legend point cost. Depending on the arrengements made during training, the character can learn any spell in the trainer‘s grimoirr. These levels can be divided as the player sees fit. ...“
Awesome! I stand corrected, which is never a bad thing. Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:34 pm
I beg to differ. Page 147 Earthdawn 2.Edition LRG
„... .Each time a character advances to a new circle they also learn a number of new spell levels equal to twice the new Circle without a Legend point cost. Depending on the arrengements made during training, the character can learn any spell in the trainer‘s grimoirr. These levels can be divided as the player sees fit. ...“
Thanks! Might have to pull out my Second Edition books and read them some time. Take kaer, James
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Anunnaki wrote: ↑
Earthdawn Classic introduced and Earthdawn Third Edition continued with allowing a single free spell from the current Circle for magician characters, up to and including Fifth Circle. After that, magicians were on their own, so to speak. Also, Spell Learning Costs (Money and Legend Points) were optional rules in both of those editions of Earthdawn.
Take kaer, James
I beg to differ. Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:08 pm
That's not from any published edition of Earthdawn I'm aware of, sorry.Lursi wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:43 pmI am not sure but I think in previous editions there was a rule that you get two times the new circle as „spell points“ and every spell‘s cost was its circle. So you level into 5th circle you get 10 points to buy one circle 5, one circle 3 and one circle 2 spell.
Earthdawn Classic introduced and Earthdawn Third Edition continued with allowing a single free spell from the current Circle for magician characters, up to and including Fifth Circle. After that, magicians were on their own, so to speak. Also, Spell Learning Costs (Money and Legend Points) were optional rules in both of those editions of Earthdawn.
Take kaer, James
Page 147 Earthdawn 2.Edition LRG
„... .Each time a character advances to a new circle they also learn a number of new spell levels equal to twice the new Circle without a Legend point cost. Depending on the arrengements made during training, the character can learn any spell in the trainer‘s grimoirr. These levels can be divided as the player sees fit. ...“
If you cant find a 2nd Edition,(not the prettiest), [Edit by Mod]you can find it in PDF in the FASA Games Shop or on Drive Thru RPG
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Lursi wrote: ↑
That's not from any published edition of Earthdawn I'm aware of, sorry.Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:43 pm
I am not sure but I think in previous editions there was a rule that you get two times the new circle as „spell points“ and every spell‘s cost was its circle. So you level into 5th circle you get 10 points to buy one circle 5, one circle 3 and one circle 2 spell.Earthdawn Classic introduced and Earthdawn Third Edition continued with allowing a single free spell from the current Circle for magician characters, up to and including Fifth Circle. After that, magicians were on their own, so to speak. Also, Spell Learning Costs (Money and Legend Points) were optional rules in both of those editions of Earthdawn.
Take kaer, James
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Works well.
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Other than that, learning new spells is pretty cost-intensive, so specifically looking for ways to get spells as reward, or finding a grimoire among treasure is a great way.
Most magicians learn very few spells of their current circle or right below, but take a lot of spells from 2-3 circles lower. The cost progression makes this very attractive.
For playing this ingame, looking for a wizard's guild is usually a good start.
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(This is covered on page 68 of the ED4 Player's Guide: "Starting Spells".)
Acquiring spells after that is up to the magician. They can learn them from a tutor/mentor, discover them in part of the loot from an adventure, or any other method the GM feels is appropriate. The exact process of learning a new spell and the associated costs in silver and Legend Points are covered on pages 251-252 in the ED4 Player's Guide.
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