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Players Guide p.459 Versatility wrote:When a human character learns a new Discipline for which he already knows one or more talents through Versatility, he must relearn those talents
and purchase Rank 1 in each—he is considered to not know these talents for the purpose of learning a new Discipline. The Legend Point cost is determined as normal, based on his current Disciplines.
Over time, the character will repurchase all Talent Ranks up to the Rank he acquired through Versatility. Once he has done so, he may learn a new talent through Versatility; effectively that Versatility “slot” is freed up for re-use. Until that point, the character essentially knows the same talent at two different Ranks, and players should differentiate between them on their Character Sheet. A character who knows the same talent at two different Ranks may use either the Versatility or the Discipline talent.

Statistics:Posted by Belenus — Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:51 pm

1. Normally a Windling may not use Karma on Astral Sight learned and enhanced as his racial ability. It still works as the talent though and inflicts strain aswell.
2. If the Windling choses to become a Nethermancer, it automatically learns Astral Sight and the racial ability becomes obsolete (Several groups houserule, that they get a +1 Bonus on this talent as compensation).
3. So what if the Windling becomes a Scout instead? The Scout has Astral Sight as a discipline talent at circle 6.
   1. Can you use Karma at circle 1 on Astral Sight, since this is part of the Discipline or do you have to wait until circle 6 to do so?
   2. Do you have to learn the discipline talent for further circle improvement or does the racial ability become the discipline talent? (Since the racial ability was enhanced as a Novice Talent and the Discipline Talent is a journeyman Talent, are you lucky enough to get to enhance it at the lower costs? Or do you have to pay the higher costs afterwards?)
4. And what about Windling Elementalists? They can learn Astral Sight as a Talent Option, therefor it is part of its Discipline. So can the Windling use Karma without learning the Talent Option?

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