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[ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 8:52 am
by Dougansf

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:07 pm
by Panda
Greetings,

The adept must still be benefiting from some way to astrally perceive the target, whether Astral Sense, Astral Sight, or something else. The adept must have previously succeeded at an astral sensing test against the target. A reference to the section on astral sensing would likely have made this more clear.

Hopefully this helped?

Best regards,

Morgan

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:18 pm
by Dougansf

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 12:42 pm
by Panda
Greetings,

Yes, Astral Sense effectively changes the duration of Astral Sight to the duration of the spell since there is no downside to keeping it continually active.

Once you have succeeded at astrally sensing a target, you maintain that success for the duration of the talent/spell. Assuming nothing happens to disrupt it. I am assuming this is essentially what you were asking about, please correct me if it is not.

Hopefully this is helpful.

Best regards,

Morgan

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:16 pm
by Dougansf
Thanks again. Let me see if I have a summary of the changes.

Astral Sight: Duration = rank rounds, Range = rank x 10 yards (single target?)
Astral Sense: Duration = rank + 10 minutes, Range changes to 30 yard radius (plus thread increases).
Astral Targeting will only be of benefit during the above Durations, upon targets with MD equal or lower than the test result.

So you could cast Astral Sense, make a single Astral Sight test (say the result is 8), and that result would last the whole duration of the spell.
When you encounter a target with a MD higher than the original result (say MD 11), you can roll another Astral Sight test to increase your result number, which will then last for the rest of the spell duration.

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:34 pm
by Panda
Greetings,

It seems I misunderstood part of your question, please allow me to provide some clarification.

When the adept makes an astral sensing test against a target, it is only against that target. The adept doesn't make one test and automatically apply the result to every pattern they encounter. Once a target has been astrally sensed, the adept maintains astrally sensing the target for the duration. If the adept wants to astrally sense a different target, the adept must make a new astral sensing test against the new target.

If successful at both tests, the adept has astrally sensed both targets and can freely benefit from Astral Targeting against them.

My apologies for introducing any confusion and thank you for offering your summary.

I sincerely hope this helps.

Best regards,

Morgan

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 2:42 pm
by Dougansf

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 6:10 pm
by Panda
No problem at all - I am happy to help.

I can certainly see how that interpretation makes sense, but it doesn't change the single target nature of the talent. Instead, it provides a zone in which the adept can track all of their targets without the need to see them. It has been likened to the motion detectors from Aliens. This is hinted at in the spell description, but not outright stated.

Yes, that is the intention. If the GM wants to rule: if the target leaves the radius, the target must be astrally sensed again - that's a fine ruling as well. The former falls into the idea the caster recognizes the pattern, while the latter implies they must maintain some kind of astral "lock" on the pattern. Ultimately, this is going to be whatever makes sense and works best for a given game.

Please let me know if there are any further questions, or if there is anything else I can do to help.

Best regards,

Morgan

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:51 am
by Mataxes
To be honest, I'm not sure the "30 yard radius area" should really apply any longer. It's a hold-over from the previous versions of the spell, when it was a separate astral sensing ability. The version in the Player's Guide came kind of late in the development cycle, so like a few other things there are bits that were left behind that probably should have been cut/tweaked.

But maybe Morgan can address that a bit more specifically... that might be an intentional limit of the "can notice things not in line of sight" independent of Astral Sight's potential range. At this point, I forget.

Re: [ED4] Astral Sense and Astral Targeting

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:53 am
by Baravakar