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by zayven
Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:39 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: ED4 Preview #3
Replies: 226
Views: 102376

Re: ED4 Preview #3

My bad I didn't realize we could only voice concern once after that we just need to accept. Voicing concern about the changes in order to have a conversation about the logic behind them is one thing; rejecting the very idea of change and accusing anyone that disagrees with you of not knowing how to...
by zayven
Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:14 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

I share a lot of these concerns about the stretch goals. I just hope that they don't wind up having to take on too much to meet all the stuff they're promising. I wish I could be more excited about the Travar book, but I've been running an ED game based out of Travar for the last few years and the r...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:55 pm
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

I know I keep making comparisons to Shadowrun, but that game's release history is a good model. First and second editions are nearly identical, with second edition being more akin to a 1.5 edition than a truly "new" edition. Third edition, however, featured a lot of mechanical tweaks and t...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:45 pm
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

As someone else said on rpg.net: I don't care the size (at least not really), just what's between the covers. I like the idea of fiction on one side then mechanics to support it akin to what Etheriel said. I have to say I don't get what people are complaining about across the mediums about not want...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:48 pm
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

FWIW, I don't have a true problem with digest size, but I don't think it is the right format for Earthdawn, at least not for the core books. The reason for this is very simple; stories. One of the things that sets Earthdawn apart is the inclusion of in-character stories and fluff along with the rul...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:06 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: ED4 Preview #3
Replies: 226
Views: 102376

Re: ED4 Preview #3

At least in my experience, Durability was something you HAD to spend points on if you didn't want to die. I've never had a player that didn't take at least a few ranks of Durability. The spirit of the change seems to be that they want to let players spend the Legend Points that would have gone into...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:48 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

I really don't see why the digest thing is such a deal breaker for people. Digest size seems to be gaining steam as a new standard for second tier rpg publications. FATE, Savage Worlds, Burning Wheel, Legend, and Colonial Gothic are some of the major examples I can think of off the top of my head an...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:39 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: ED4 Preview #3
Replies: 226
Views: 102376

Re: ED4 Preview #3

The spirit of the change seems to be that they want to let players spend the Legend Points that would have gone into Durability on other, active Talents. I agree that that is the goal of the change. But the cost of the change is to prevent players from choosing to spend more if they wish. FASA coul...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:21 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: Kickstarter!
Replies: 106
Views: 57084

Re: Kickstarter!

I am very happy to hear the ED4 is now a go. I had even contemplated tossing monies for the kick starter, but then I saw this... As of right now, the plan is the for the books to be digest-sized (about 9" x 6"). Black & white interior, color cover. This makes me sad. I spent time writ...
by zayven
Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:16 am
Forum: Product Discussion
Topic: ED4 Preview #3
Replies: 226
Views: 102376

Re: ED4 Preview #3

My opinion on this is, it is a great change. Durability was always the first thing I would buy, as high as I could buy it. (my GM at the time, maxed ranks at Circle +3); it was no brainer. This sounds more like a "no" vote to me. Not to put words in his mouth, I think his point is that sp...

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