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Item History is used to discover the Test Knowledge for both Pattern Items and Thread Items. Understood If your character already KNOWS (no guessing allowed), then they already have the "Research" Knowledge. That is the case in my example where the Test Knowlege is "Who was the last ...

One final query: On Pattern Items a) Have a person/place with a true pattern b) Roll Research to find info about true pattern that will lead you to the pattern item c) Obtain pattern item and roll Item History to confirm your research knowledge is what is needed in the test knowledge d) Spend Legend...

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I agree that you should conduct some research instead of just rolling dice. In fact the reason I initially asked my question was because it looked like from the rules that for pattern items, you just made a Research skill roll.

The only thing you are missing in the Pattern Item step is c) obtain the pattern item AND ROLL Item History to confirm your research knowledge is what is needed in the Test Knowledge. It comes down to: You need both things [Test Knowledge via Item History talent] and [Research Knowledge from Rolepl...

This is getting really confusing (I've got mild autism so certain things throw me for a loop, it's just how my brain works, or doesn't work I guess). I like things spelt out in systematic steps. So to that end... With magic items, you: a) find the magic item b) use Item History to find the relevant ...

I understand this part: Page 228 If the Item History test succeeds, the character learns the Test Knowledge held by the Pattern Item. This knowledge is related to the relationship between the Pattern Item and the True Pattern it represents. The following confuses me: Because of this, further researc...

I think I mixed up true pattern with pattern item Page 229 : "To research a True Pattern the character may use the Research skill (p. 163). To obtain information, he makes a Research test against the Difficulty Number of the information sought." So the Research skill roll is only used to f...

Ok I think I've pinpointed what exactly is confusing me It seems when weaving threads to a magic item, after the Test Knowledge has been successfully accomplished, the Research is conducted with good old fashion adventuring, i.e. it's not directly and solely reliant on a skill roll (page 223) But wh...

Thanks Undying!