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2020-03-22T04:03:412020-03-22T04:03:41 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=12073#p12073 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]> Statistics:Posted by etherial — Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:03 am


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2020-03-11T23:09:042020-03-11T23:09:04 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11948#p11948 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]> Thanks for the answers

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2020-03-11T21:53:082020-03-11T21:53:08 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11947#p11947 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]> Statistics:Posted by Telarus — Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:53 pm


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2020-03-11T19:32:402020-03-11T19:32:40 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11946#p11946 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]> But beastmasters are not balanced solely for windlings, and the races that don't get that extra +2 see the benefit of a high Avoid Blow more often than windlings do.

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2020-03-11T18:18:222020-03-11T18:18:22 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11945#p11945 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]>
With Avoid Blow rank 2 he rolls step 9, +1d6 (step 4) for Karma, giving him a 13 as median result, which is already 2 higher than his PD. He thus has a great chance at avoiding. If you add in the importance of not being hit at all for the Windling and his rather low toughness step, this should be a no-brainer to take it.

However:
His (the player's) perception will differ greatly, as we tend to remember/perceive bad events more easily than good events. So if he tries to avoid 10 times and actually manages 7 of those, he will still feel the talent is not worth it.

Further he'd have to watch the skewing of statistics of only rolling against attacks that were "at least" his PD, many probably a good bit higher. So his success probability will be way lower than it would be if you only compare to his PD.

TL;DR: If you push him to take it, he may possibly resent you or the Char for it, as you can see it for taking player agency away. If he decides to take it later, it won't be expensive.

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2020-03-11T18:12:592020-03-11T18:12:59 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11944#p11944 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]> + Your dice can explode.
And what you shouldn't miss either: You no longer fall automatically if Avoid Blow fails. So just 1 strain damage for a second chance.

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2020-03-11T13:12:312020-03-11T13:12:31 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11943#p11943 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]>
Perhaps he is a player used to previous edition where a failed Avoid Blow resulted in being knockdown?

Back then, using Avoid Blow was a hell of a gamble so that might be why he think its not worth it.

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2020-03-11T13:02:062020-03-11T13:02:06 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11942#p11942 <![CDATA[Re: Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]>
Being harder to hit should not translate into being better at evading.

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2020-03-11T12:38:542020-03-11T12:38:54 http://fasagames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&p=11941#p11941 <![CDATA[Avoid Blow, Physical, Defense and Windlings]]>
so in 4th Ed, Physical Defence is "more or less" +2/+3 compared to Dex Step
Windlings get an additional +2, so it is more or less +4/+5

Created a Windling Beastmaster for one of my players, and when seeing it, his reaction has been :
"Avoid Blow? How will I ever use that... Until Rank 4 or 5, i.e. Circle 4 or 5 I will hardly be able to ever overpass my physical defence, so avoid any hit that actually hit me"

Tried to convince him that with the use of Karma that still gave him a chance, but I am now thinking it would make sense to apply the +2 for Windlings also to his Avoid Blow Rank... Thoughts ?

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