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So Enhanced Matrix will save you a thread (you probably already know this?), so you are down to one spell thread at Weaving Difficulty 13, for Damage Shift. It's a Circle 7 spell, so you'll have an Enhanced Matrix (which you pick up at Sixth Circle).
If you already have a use for Enhanced Matrix, you can always Reattune On The Fly against a Reattunement Difficulty of 20 ... better than risking a 26, but if you need to swap spells, doable with Step 17 with Step 4 Karma (total Step 21). Still, that takes a round, and you still have to pre-weave the thread, so not that great if speed is an issue.
Definitely look into picking up some Enhanced Matrix Objects. Extra spell matrixes are a good thing, and if you're tight on Enhanced Matrixes, at least until Eighth Circle, it's a way of adding a bit more spell capability.
You may have considered all this anyways, but just throwing it out there.
Hope this helps!
Take kaer, James
Statistics:Posted by Anunnaki — Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:34 am
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2 thread of 13 = 26. Not that easy to get with 17 step(8from Perception+7 from thread weaving +d6 of karma)
I want more thread weaving steps!
Thanks for talk guys
I like all those suggestions.Statistics:Posted by FrozenVomit — Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:30 pm
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Belenus wrote: ↑
And I also never had problems with reattuning.
I could only see a problem there when you're playing an obsidiman or troll and just have a D4 as Karma dice.
Hiya,Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:59 pm
It doesn't seem to be higher than in other editions.And I also never had problems with reattuning.
I could only see a problem there when you're playing an obsidiman or troll and just have a D4 as Karma dice.
Just wanted to add Reattuning OTF as "another" reason to have a better Thread Weaving Step. Reattunement DNs are higher than Weaving Difficulty, which is the point I was making. You take 1 Damage Point for each attempt (in ED1), so you want to get the roll done quickly. Also, if you are interrupted you wipe ALL of your spell matrices. That's not fun.
The OP noted they are playing ED1 "specifically", so trying to keep the "other edition" noise out of the thread, hence the Subject changes to include [ED1]. You are correct that it's not generally higher in other editions, however.
Glad to know you never had issues with reattuning. My players always saw it as too risky for general use, but definitely an option for emergencies. And yes, with the D4 Karma Die, you have a bit of a crap shoot when it comes to the roll. But you have a Bonus Die 25% of the time, so that's a thing.
Take kaer, James
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I could only see a problem there when you're playing an obsidiman or troll and just have a D4 as Karma dice.
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Take kaer, James
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Just looked it up, it works just the same as in other editions: With high enough a roll you can weave multiple threads at once.
But I never had problems with weaving threads and just one to three more ranks won't change much?
Statistics:Posted by Belenus — Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:40 pm
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Give it a spell matrix.
Add boosts to tests for thread weaving and/or spellcasting for only the spell(s) in the matrix.
Give it an (higher-tiered) ability to use strain to allow casting a spell in the matrix as a simple action if thread weaving was used that round to weave a thread to the spell, and all necessary threads are woven.
It could start as a standard matrix and then later become a shared matrix, allowing 2 spells to be cast more quickly.
This prevents EVERY spell from being cast too quickly but still allows a choice spell or two.
Oh, and maybe it provides bonuses to reattuning on the fly (generally or just with its own matrix). The overall theme is speed-casting, anyway, right?
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We’ll go with the home made Item.
And yes it’s to cast faster
Statistics:Posted by FrozenVomit — Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:28 pm
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You almost certainly don't want to conflate Thread Weaving with Spellcasting, as that can too easily overpower Spellcasting (providing little need for magicians to invest in Thread Weaving, which is one of the balances for high-power spells).
Are you looking for providing a boost to just one magician type (wizard, elementalist, etc.)? Or something generic to all disciplines?
If just 1, have it boost Elementalism or whichever is appropriate.
Fourth edition lists "+1 to...a Thread Weaving test" as an ability for any thread rank. That should translate well enough to 1E. That bonus could be a "+1 to any Thread Weaving test to weave spell threads", limiting the danger of making it too broadly useful.
Statistics:Posted by Tattered Rags — Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:09 pm
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Honestly, I wouldn't use Spellcasting to weave a thread (that's not how Spellcasting works ... it casts spells, while Thread Weaving ... weaves threads).
In terms of creating an item that enhances Thread Weaving, as I noted, the few items that enhance Thread Weaving are specific about the type of Thread Weaving. Mostly, it's Elementalism (because the items are used for Elementalism things).
I'm not sure why you're wanting to improve Thread Weaving, other than maybe to weave spell threads quicker? Most difficulty numbers are achievable with a Karma Point to add some surety to the test.
In terms of making an item. Items that grant a bonus to Thread Weaving Step would definitely be better than items that increase Thread Weaving Rank -- the former is making the test easier; the latter has a knock on effect (Can I now weave higher threads to magic items? Is that only while wearing/using the item? What happens if I take off/stop using the item -- do I lose the thread?). Hopefully you can see where I'm going with this.
None of the items mentioned above improve Thread Weaving Rank. Also, all of them are Magical Treasures, as opposed to Thread Items, so they are very rare to unique.
Ultimately, how you and your group want to run your Earthdawn is up to you! As long as you're having fun, it's all good.
Because there are not a lot of published items that meet this criteria does not mean you can't make your own. Just make sure you think about the implications when you do.Hope this helps!
Take kaer, James
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But, we might create an Item just for that or make a house rule that Spellcasting is use to weave thread into spell, even though we play in 1st edition. (Thread weaving is use to weave thread in spell in 1st edition)
It should not be a problem, right?
Statistics:Posted by FrozenVomit — Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:42 pm
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There aren't many items (common magic, blood charms, thread items, magical treasures) that augment Thread Weaving. Thread Weaving is integral to, well, weaving threads to things, so items that provide a bonus are a rare thing, compared to those that affect Spellcasting. Additionally, Thread Weaving is unique to each Discipline, so those few items that do provide a benefit tend to be specific to one type of Thread Weaving.
A check of the ED1 Rulebook, Companion, Magic: A Manual of Mystic Secrets, Arcane Mysteries, GM Pack, and Barsaive Campaign set gives:
Talisman Statue (GM Pack, p.43)
Bracers of Firewind (Arcane Mysteries of Barsaive, p.78)
The Robe of Dianuus (Arcane Mysteries of Barsaive, p.89)
Added from other books (and this is all, as far as I can tell):
Blades of Cara Fahd (Blades, p.11; not specifically Thread Weaving, but it can improve this talent)
Horn of the Seven Winds (Serpent River, p.129)
Hope this helps!
Take kaer, James
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