Statistics:Posted by JetBlackJoe — Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:55 pm
Statistics:Posted by ChrisDDickey — Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:26 pm
Statistics:Posted by Belenus — Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:26 pm
So your opinion is the opposite of Bonhumm and ChrisDDickey in allowing the full effect of multiple uses of the Talent simultaneously. Both options have their pros and cons in terms of bookkeeping in my opinion, and I'm not entirely sure which one feels right to me. Actually, there are three ways to go:
Statistics:Posted by JetBlackJoe — Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:09 pm
JetBlackJoe wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:06 amHmm, this would indeed be the simplest solution and would be in line with the wording in Dominate Beast regarding multiple instances. However, something just doesn't jive with me regarding Distract. With Battle Shout/Bellow it's easy - the effect is instant, affects the same target(s) in the same way, and naturally the best test result applies.
However, Distract has different effects on the user, the target and other characters.Consider the following scenario:Distract Talents, p. 139 wrote:The user suffers -(1 * Successes) Physical Defense vs. target.
The target suffers -(1 * Successes) Physical Defense vs. all other characters than the user and counts as pseudo-Blindsided.
- A Warrior (WAR) with the Distract Talent
- A Swordmaster (SWORD) With the Distract Talent
- Several other party members (GANG)
- A big, bad mean monster (BAMF)
WAR, SWORD and GANG are fighting against BAMF.I am sure you can complicate this scenario even further with different Initiative orders, more attacks, Talents et cetera.
- WAR uses Air Dance and wins Initiative with three successes compared to BAMF. He is followed by SWORD, BAMF and finally GANG.
- WAR successfully uses Distract (lets say with 3 successes) on BAMF and makes an attack.
- SWORD makes an attack on BAMF, making good use of Blindside. SWORD then uses Distract on BAMF.
- If SWORD beats the test result of WAR (with 4 successes), BAMF is Distracted by SWORD. Does WAR still have a reduced Physical Defense from performing his Distraction? (Yes, but BAMF has now -4 PD against WAR and GANG and -3 against SWORD)
- If SWORD fails to beat the test result of WAR, BAMF is still Distracted by WAR. Does SWORD still have a reduced Physical Defense from trying to Distract? (This is the same as below? If he doesn't beat the SD of the enemy aswell, just nothing happens)
- If SWORD beats the Social Defense of BAMF but fails to beat the test result of WAR (lets say with 2 successes), BAMF is still Distracted by WAR. Does both WAR and SWORD have a reduced Physical Defense then? (Yes, but now BAMF now has -2 PD against WAR and still -3 against SWORD and GANG)
- BAMF attacks - but who will he attack, and what is their Physical Defense? (The one with the higher test result probably. Of course he wouldn't run after WAR if he somehow where to get out of BAMFs range and SWORD would still be there or other examples. This talent doesn't make the enemy stupid. He even might go for the spellcaster of GANG if he sees it fit.)
- WAR makes his Air Dance bonus attack. If SWORD successfully Distracted BAMF, he applies the benefits of Blindside? (Yes)
- GANG attacks BAMF with Blindside bonus, regardless of whether BAMF is Distracted by WAR or SWORD. (Correct)
Statistics:Posted by Belenus — Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:11 am
Consider the following scenario:Distract Talents, p. 139 wrote:The user suffers -(1 * Successes) Physical Defense vs. target.
The target suffers -(1 * Successes) Physical Defense vs. all other characters than the user and counts as pseudo-Blindsided.
Statistics:Posted by JetBlackJoe — Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:06 am
Statistics:Posted by ChrisDDickey — Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:34 pm