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and referred to at the start of the Enchanting chapter:The Weird Scientists don’t generally believe in magic as magic per se. They believe that a previously untapped energy source has been found, or that new principles of Science have been discovered, or that the reason old theories such as the ether and phlogiston were discredited was partly because those people were doing things all wrong and didn’t understand the results of their experiments. They’re able to reproduce their own work, and some of their fellows get similar results. If the larger scientific community can’t verify the experiments, perhaps a rethinking of the more widely accepted ideas is in order. If your science cannot explain why my machine can turn ceramic vases inside out without breaking them, but I can build another machine that does exactly the same thing, and the machine works for anyone who operates it, then your science needs to adjust its theories to fit the new evidence. That’s how science works, after all.
Also note the wording in the Lodges section of the Magic Theory chapter, where it talks about Schools and specifically the Newtonians:Magicians have created several methods of enchanting, and can produce a wide variety of magical items. Not all of these are considered magical by the general populace, or sometimes by the magician themselves. Weird Scientists do not call themselves magicians, and their work is regarded as odd and perhaps dangerous, but not magical, by the public.
I think your last post here is really getting it. On the average, the Heron believes that she is a master of clockwork, and can simply coax the cogs into doing what she needs, and doesn't realize that singing over her work absentmindedly is what's actually empowering the device. The Newtonian firmly believes they have discovered the ancient secrets of alchemy, and do not realize they are brewing potions, although any Newtonian who has graduated to making foci certainly has changed their mind on this subject. The Promethean has uncovered the secrets of life itself and we won't discuss what he gets up to in that shed out back. The more enlightened souls have come to understand that WS is in fact a branch of magic. The Galvanic Order understands this, certainly, as it underpins a great deal of what they do, and they started out with a mathematical model of mana. Try telling your average Heron that they're really an enchanter however and you will get the same reception you would in confronting someone whose work is based on the literal existence of Maxwell's Demon and trying to prove entropy to them.Alchemists, the Newtonians do their spellcasting work in the lab, where they create expendable spell foci, potions, and so forth. If a Newtonian has the time and the materials available, they’re much more effective in the field, as they can discard any bad lab results and keep only the best of their efforts. Like the Galvanic Order, Newtonians tend toward a scientific, rational Style, with notebooks full of experimental results, careful and precise measurement of processes and effects, and a love of predictability.
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It was only when I got confirmation that Weird Scientists really are using real and actual magic, and that Astral Sight will show it as magic, and dispel magic will work on it, Etc., and not just actual Real Weird Science that while not really magic uses the same rules that enchanting uses, that it all finally fell into place.So in game, weird science is not considered magic. People consider it imperfectly understood science, not magic.
Is it magic? or is it science that for simplicity's sake uses the identical rules that magic does?
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